Hello and welcome to IMS's audio description UK blog. First, a declaration of interest: IMS is an independent company providing audio description and other access services to TV stations, film distributors and other media organisations. There aren't many resources on the Net for people to discuss the audio description services currently available in the UK so we'd like to encourage you to post comments on this blog on anything pertaining to AD. Do you have family members or friends who use audio description and want to tell their stories? Have you heard audio description for your favourite TV show and want to shout about how great it was? Have you been to a specially-equipped cinema in the UK with audio description on the latest big movie, only to be sorely disappointed by what you heard? It's easy to take part - post your comment, and we'll feed them back to our clients (where appropriate) and provide expert responses from our audio description team, led by Veronika Hyks.
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The DVD boxset of Doctor Who Series 2 hits the streets next Monday and not only is every episode audio described, it is the first DVD commercial release with comprehensive audio navigation. It is a relatively complex set of discs but you can work it all, all by yourself without any sighted help.
I used to think I wasn't missing much by just listening to TV without being able to see the picture. Apart from films that were obviously hard to follow, such as 2001 A Space Odyssey, where minutes go by without any dialogue to give you a clue as to what's happening, I thought I was doing OK with most films and programmes. For the last year or two though I've discovered how wrong I was. "Watching" TV has taken on a new dimension. I have seen some classic films, such as Four Weddings and a Funeral, Last Tango in Paris, and Lord of the Rings, both with and without audiodescription. There were whole scenes that I didn't know existed, as well as twists to the plot and clues about characters, all of which made these films complete.
It's not just films though. Documentaries such as Planet Earth, Coast or Galapagos have also become ten times richer and more enjoyable now I have both the action and the appearance of scenery and creatures. And of course there's Star Trek, which I watched avidly as a child, so now I can see those episodes again "properly" with all the gaps filled in.
If there's a down side, it's that my expectations have been raised, so that now, when a film doesn't have audiodescription, I will think twice about whether I'll even try to watch it. I'm also hoping that some films in other languages, which are always subtitled, can be translated along with the audiodescription.
Overall, audiodescription gives me precious new information about the visual world which adds to my understanding of the real world. So please, we want more ...
What a good idea, an opportunity to offer feedback on the AD that we experience. RNIB have for sometime offered to share feedback with those involved in AD production and distribution but if you send comments you are never sure who they are going to, if they get to the right people or if they are followed up on so this opportunity to talk with a company in the AD business direct is very welcome. or from this AD user it certainly is anyway. I particularly value the chance to talk about quality as it is an important factor. One program where the quality seems consistantly poor is Friends, a program which anyone with e4 or more 4 will find inpossible to miss however hard you might try. while the description itself is fine it is continually played accross the program audio so that you miss the punchline which the AD provides the context for. a very definate example of when AD adds no value. on the other side of the coin an example of AD which was excellent was on the last series of the channel 4 program Shameless. much of the content is adult and /or explicit and it was refreshing not to have AD which shyed away from this. picking up on Peters idea of AD and English audio translation on foreign language films, yes very useful indeed as my partner is a fan of foreign language titles. I did watch a review copy of one such title lent to me by the RNIB, can't remember which company had produced it. the film wasn't really my cup of tea which limited my enjoyment a little but nevertheless it was in this case very well done. possibly in the main because ofthe long silences between dialog in the film in question which if memory serves was set in france in the first world war.
Speaking on behalf of my two sons, the Wallace and Grommit film "curse of the Wererabbit" which we saw at the cinema audio-described, was very well done.
Some TV programmes have good audio description, but a common problem is that the description cuts in and out at high volume, breaking up the whole flow of the programme. A more careful and sensitive editing would make all the difference.
My wife and I loved the audio description on a recent home improvement-type programme where the estate agents were graphically described, including a woman with "flabby jowls" - especially as we knew her!
I find it rather discouraging that the quota for audio description is wasted audio-describing documentaries. All right, blind and partially sighted people may get slightly more out of a documentary if it is audio-described, but these can easily be followed without audio description, whereas films and dramas cannot be followed without audio description. As there is only a small quota, why waste it on unnecessary audio description? In an ideal world, everything would be audio-described, but as we do not live in such a world, please, please don't waste this precious resource on documentaries - save it for dramas and movies.
I watched "Born Equal" last night (BBC-1) and would have found it extremely difficult to follow without the audio description. Keep up the good work on dramas and movies.
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The UK Film Council has commissioned a team of consultants to undertake a major study of access to cinema and film consumption for blind and partially sighted people.
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Over the next few weeks we will be running a survey on audio described cinema. The surveys can be carried out online, by telephone or by post. There will be a £100 cash prize draw and prizes of free cinema tickets available.
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we watched Torchwood last night. The audio description was excellent. Well done BBC.
This weekend we watched the RNIB audio-described videos of The Lord of the Rings (all three). I have rarely heard better audio description, since I first became aware of the service. The voice was clear, it was concise and although some sighted people complained that it was too detailed at times I FOUND THE QUALITY AND THE QUANTITY TRULY EXCELLENT. it was the most poetical audio description I have ever heard and although it could not describe every stroke of the fight scenes there was enough detail to follow it without any confusion.
Hello and a happy new year to all potential bloggers and friends of audio description. i am delighted that a few of you have taken time to post your comments, I particularly liked graham w's quoted description. Audio description allows us to describe people warts and all and nobody can accuse us of being cruel, as long as the description has been checked by another describer. To some men Jordan may be hot stuff, whereaas to others she is just a tabloid darling, but we can all agree on the massiveness of her chest and that's not a mere opinion that is what it says on the tin.
So do please send us your views, which programmes are a waste of resources as carole gardiner says. If anyone goes to see Apocalipto, the ultimate foreigh language film, I would be interested to know if it works with ad. What are the voices like? Are there any voices delivering AD that you are not keen on? Obviously that would have to be an anomymous comment. is the ad good?
Following from trekkie Saturday, I am organising another viewing day on February 10th. It can either be a film or a couple of episodes of The Lord World of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, which is a cross between the famous five, jurassic park and I'm a celebrity , get me outta here. let me know.
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I recently watched Saving Private Ryan on Channel 5; it was vastly enhanced by audio-description. Has it been released with A-D on dvd?
Mike
In response to Mike, i don;t think Private ryan has AD. The dostributors might be persuaded to rerelease it with AD.
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I've just stumpled apon this blog, and I really do find it great that I am able to discuss audio description related programming here.
First and formost, let me express my huge inthusiasm for alot of the shows/films that IMS has described. They are really well done, however I could prefer a little more dramatisation when huge action scenes are taking place.
I especially like your description of the star trek series, and I've also enjoyed films like flightplan and The village.
My favorite describer from IMS has to be Stephen Dubbin, he has a really fidding voice to the horror/sci-fi-stuff, and I am so happy that he does most of the star trek episodes. I really prefer when a describer does an intire series themselves, as this means that they often get more familiour with charecters and places. I am really not kean on the fact that a series is divided between describers, as is the case for the lost world series.
Before I go, I do have a little question to you veronica. I would be very intrested to have a look at an online catalouge of audio described programmes that IMS has produced. Is such a catalogue availible to download? I know that ITFC has got one, but havent been able to locate one at your website.
All the best from allan
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Hi all. Some of you mentioned the audio described star trek series, where do I watch it? is it available in dvd or only through digital t.v?
It is availible on the sci fi channel at 12:00 PM weekdays. currently season 3 is aired.
All the best from Allan
Hello,my name is Vera and I am a young Italian researcher in English for Special Purposes. I am currently working on AD. I am focusing on AD language, and I am looking for AD scripts. Unfortunately, it seems very difficult to get them, but (for research sake) it is not recommended to transcribe the AD track. Would you please suggest me some way to collect these scripts? Of course I wouldn't disclose any of them to anyone unless authorised. Any suggestion or comment is more than welcome, you can email me: vera.arma@gmail.com
Thanks a lot for helping!
Vera
hi i wont to talk about a,d well i listen to a lot of films but when, they have audio i sometimes get a good audio description but othertimes i get a british voice that i don't like, i don't no what the persuns name is that is doing that audio description but, i think that he should lern to put expretion in his voice, because expretion in inportent, i mean say you was listenning to a horror would you wont someone who givs the description with exsightment in there voice or would you wont someone who keaps there voice flat and boring, sorry if this doesn't make much sence .
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I completely agree with you! i also prefur when the narrator puts some expression into his voice. If he doesnt, an otherwise great show can quickly become very very borring indeed!
One of my all time favorite describers is called Tim Bruce. he has described alot of movies for Sky, as well as 2 seasons of the hit tv show 24. Boy is he amazing!! He really pores his heart into the matter and imparts with the storry like he is part of the cast. And he is dooing some fab imitry as well!
If you havent herd anything hi's done, then please do, as he really is fab! I really wish that sky would use him more often.
regarding the british narrator you did not like. perhaps if you could tell us the name of the tv-show you were watching? then perhaps we could find out who the describer was.
all the best from allan
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My name is Michael Fish from the Us. I am writing to first say it is great that you have so many ad videos and series. I was wondering if their were any that could be downloaded or streamed since here in the States they don't provide description for shows on tv and they have stopped describing movies and stopped selling them as well. Please let me know if anyone can help and please email me off list if you please at
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